If abdominal bloating doesn’t subside after a few days of fasting, the diagnosis may turn to Dropsy.
Q: AC wrote,
I think i have a problem, for the last month my betta has been getting fatter and fatter. Until recently I thought it was just a bit of overfeeding. Then I saw your website and the message from SK on 2.22.2007. I have a very similar problem with my betta, he does not seem to be stressed at all but has a very distended abdomen.
Water quality tests as:
pH: 7.0
Nitrite: 0.3mg/l (a bit high i know so doing another water change)
Temp: 78 degrees
Tank: community tank (2x Corys, 4x minnows, 1x plec & 1x loach) filtered and heatedIf you think it is dropsy do you think I should isolate him and attempt to treat it? I’ve seen a lot about epsom salts and possibly antibacterial treatments. Also now that I’ve been looking around for cures I think my bettas (I have one male and two females) may have a case of fin rot as well. Their dorsal, anal and caudal fins all look fine but their pectoral fins are lacking any webbing between rays. Is this normal for bettas? I’ve attached photos of the male with his distended abdomen and two photos that show the state of their pectoral fins. I know this is probably a lot to take in but any suggestions you may have would be greatly appreciated.
A: Thanks for writing in. The photos you provided were excellent quality and very helpful. The first thing I noticed is that all the photos showed severe abdominal bloating. I assumed it was the blue betta that you were referring to regarding the distended abdomen but your white betta is quite bloated as well. Dropsy can spread if the root cause is contagious. For example, if a virus lead to dropsy it can spread from fish to fish if water is mixed or even if equipment is shared. At first glance it does appear to be Dropsy but we should rule out overfeeding first. Can you provide more information on what you are feeding? What type of food, how much are you feeding at a time and how often do you feed? Have you tried fasting the fish for a day or two? Have you noticed them excreting waste normally? If we can rule out constipation then we can turn our focus to Dropsy.
In terms of fin rot I did notice some minor fin rot in the blue fish in the anal and tail fins. The pectoral fins may be showing a little. All the fin rot I could see in the photos was pretty minor. It could be a water quality issue. The presence of nitrites tells me your tank is trying to cycle. That can certainly cause the fin rot you’re seeing. I also recommend doing an ammonia test.
If it turns out both your bettas have dropsy there isn’t a lot you can do but make them comfortable. Epsom salts may help. It’s important to only treat the sick fish by removing them from the rest of the population. Corys, plecos and loaches are especially sensitive to medication and water additives and shouldn’t be exposed to them. I will keep you and your fish in my thoughts. Let me know a little more about the feeding and maybe we can figure out what is going on.
AC: I’ve had the blue fish isolated since I sent you the e-mail and didn’t feed him for 2.5 days, then fed him half a mashed up pea but he wasn’t interested. He has pood a bit but not much and is still very bloated. The other two bettas have been in the tank with my other fish, they get a mix of ‘Aquarian tropical flakes’, ‘King British Catfish pellet food’ and ‘Hikari Algae wafers’. I have 4 minnows, 2 corys, 1 plec, 1 loach and 3 bettas (1 male & 2 females). Daily they get approximately 8 catfish pellets (they all eat these) and 8-10 flakes. Then every other day I put in an algae wafer for the plec. I hope that this will hope with a diagnosis, looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks for providing the food information. This does help explain why the others may appear bloated. It sounds like they are being fed pretty heavily. Bettas tend to bloat quickly when overfed. A good rule of thumb when feeding bettas is to feed a portion about the size of one of their eyeballs twice per day. Also, make sure they are eating food for carnivores. Of course they do tend to be little pigs and want to eat anything dropped in their tank but foods like algae wafers and catfish pellets can certainly lead to bloating. Their short digestive tracts just aren’t built for it.
Based on your photos and the food info you provided I have to agree with your original diagnosis that your one betta has dropsy and the others are probably ok, just a bit bloated from overfeeding and eating foods not really intended for them.
By the time dropsy progresses to the point of bloating it generally isn’t treatable. You’re doing the right thing by keeping him segregated from the others. As long as he’s active and eating there isn’t much you can do. Just keep his water clean and be careful not to overfeed him. Bettas with Dropsy may continue to live for several weeks or even months before they succumb. The best thing you can do is keep him comfortable and avoid stressors.
This betta shows substantial bloating but was being consistently overfed and fed herbivore foods, which contribute to bloating. Feeding small portions of betta-appropriate food may reduce bloating and rule out Dropsy.
OUR CLASS FISH DIED OF THIS we thought it was pregnet its name was nemo, and bubbles is still a live!!!
its me again also we bured nemo under the school tree!!!
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I’m sorry to hear about Nemo. Poor little guy.
The second picture is what happened to my betta: the neighbors took care of it and their little girl spilled all the food in the tank by accident. When I got him back he was a marble.
Our Sweet Betta (older adult) had the beginning stages of Dropsy when we returned from our honeymoon over three months ago. Our friends were caring for him. I have almost owned him for 2 years and bought him when he was already full grown. We are certain he had dropsy and we did everything we could to make him comfortable and tried to heal him. We changed his water every other day, did epsom salt treatments and two cycles in the last months of Maracyn Plus (supposedly good for dropsy). We would feed him through a turkey baster (as he was on the bottom of the tank and couldn’t get his floating food), and he ate until that last two days. He was truly a fighter and we will miss him.
how did you feed your betta with a baster? My fish hasn’t come to the top in a few days and fear he will starve to death..
Can anyone tell me on the very bottom picture of the blue beta, is the red/brown coloring on his face and back normal? Our beta looks very much like him except for the bloating. I am wondering if the color changing is also a symptom of dropsy?
Frank, see my reply about color changes below.
*sigh* my poor better, I’m sadly concluding must have dropsy, Ive been treating him for constipation for a week now to no avail and it seems he’s beginning to pinecone. I might send in some photos for the site if it will help others in future diagnosis
How much epson salts to 5lt water?
I think it’s very important to check the indredients of your Betta food! I have a happy, peaceful betta sorority (except for my problem child Lapis, who makes fights and loses). I started giving them new pellets and they all bloated, and I freaked out! But then I realized I had been feeding them food with the first ingredient of wheat! That’s why they got fat. Guess I’ll change the diet!